Pursuit of the Paranormal: One Christian's Perspective, Part 2 Can Christians Participate?

Posted by Patrick at 10:19 AM
May 082010

Pursuit of the Paranormal: One Christian’s Perspective, Part 2


Can Christians Participate? Defending Christianity and TAPS

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I was planning on presenting an expansion on my view of certain paranormal activities undertaken by us humans, examining the areas of human-paranormal interaction “crosses the line;” that is, where our involvement violates God’s laws. However, a short while back, it was brought to my attention a particular organization of “Christians” and their world view, particularly concerning the paranormal. Out of respect to true Christians, and to not provide these people any traffic, I am refraining from mentioning their name and website. So for the sake of this article, let’s call them “The Spiteful Ones.” However, as I go through some of my thoughts here, I am sure that many of you already have an idea who they are.

To begin, I will provide some insight into this group. I am sure the majority of you are familiar with the Westboro Baptist Church of Kansas. They are the group who protests the funerals of our fallen soldiers, claiming that their death was due to their participation in a military that allows homosexuals to serve (assuming they don’t let anyone know they are homosexual) as well as providing for the defense of a nation that doesn’t demonize homosexuals. Their stance is that, by association, our soldiers, airmen, and sailors are defenders and protectors of homosexuals, which to this “church” is a grievous sin for which the death of our service men is an opportunity to celebrate God’s vengeance (which is what they believe to be the real reason for the service member’s deaths). The Spiteful Ones are even more severe in their rhetoric and I am shocked that anyone purporting to be a believer in Christ Jesus could say what they say. I honestly thought I was reading “The Onion.” There was no way this was legitimate was it? Unfortunately, it is.

TAPSSo let’s get into the issue that was presented to me. The Spiteful Ones felt it necessary to warn their readers about the dangerous, satanic organization of The Atlantic Paranormal Society (TAPS from SyFy’s “Ghost Hunters”). It is one thing to levy accusations against a group when the attacks are based on substantiated facts. These people felt it necessary to completely falsify almost every aspect of TAPS to make them appear as cold and vicious as the couple running around in Denver taking advantage of the kindness of senior citizens in order to steal their valuables. Actually, The Spiteful Ones claim is exactly that, that TAPS preys on the seniors who have recently lost their spouse. They base their knowledge from a “priest” who had visited and followed along with TAPS on a couple of cases wherein he claims they sought out these individuals and pandered their abilities to put them in touch with their loved ones and in return received a large sum of money even though they never really made contact. Now, anyone who has seen Ghost Hunters knows that TAPS does not seek out individuals (on occasion they may pursue a well established commercial establishment that has a well established history) nor do they attempt to act as psychic mediums performing a séance to commune with the deceased. First, TAPS never goes where it is not first invited by someone who themselves initiated contact with TAPS. Second, Their approach is to disprove the haunting and only when proof is provided in the affirmative, then they may declare the haunting a possibility. Never have they ever claimed to put a homeowner in touch with a lost loved one. Anyway, as a result of their claims of TAPS’s behavior The Spiteful Ones declare them to be among the most dangerous people in America and because they are “satanic,” God brought forth His wrath on them and the city of Warwick in the form of a flood. Yes, they claim the flood of Warwick recently was solely due to the existence of TAPS residing there! I find that even more outrageous than Falwell’s “Sept 11 was due to God’s wrath on America for not standing up against homosexuality” claim.

Within the same “article” about Ghost Hunters, The Spiteful Ones continued by making further claims I find to be counter to the facts as revealed in the very same Bible they supposedly uphold. Read my first article to get my view of the existence of ghosts or spirits. Their view is that there is no such thing as ghosts and that people only believe there are ghosts because of the misnomer of the third branch of the Trinity, the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost isn’t really a ghost, they claim, it was just a way to put it into terms that lay people could understand. Of course that begs the question, if identifying an entity as a ghost so that people could conceptualize that entity, would it not follow logically that there must have been a societal perception and belief in ghosts to begin with from which they could draw their conception of the Holy Ghost. I firmly believe in the Holy Ghost, but I certainly couldn’t elaborate on the entity that is the third branch of the Holy Trinity. I could only imagine the Holy Ghost as residing in the fourth physical dimension, of which no person could visualize or understand since we reside in a three-dimensional spatial universe. You just can’t explain something that is outside the realm of any available knowledge. Anyway, these holier-than-thou individuals continue on and make final arguments that have something to do with the “evil homosexuals.” These types always seem to blame things on homosexual behavior and in the process apply monikers that I couldn’t even stand reading without absolute revulsion.

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A final thought on these people is their utter and absolute disassociation with the teachings of Christ and the Bible while at the same time claiming to uphold it. Jesus teaches us to “hate the sin, but love the sinner” (a common, one-line summation of Jesus’ approach) and I take that to heart (as best as I can, but I ain’t perfect myself). More than anything as Christians we are called to duty to reach out to sinners and share the Gospel in hopes the love of Jesus will impact their lives and they will change from their sinful ways. Also, another one-line summation of the Bible is “We are all created by God, in His image, and to hate another person is akin to hating God.” Well, if that is true, The Spiteful Ones hate God more than even atheists do. The hate that spills out from their mouths towards other human beings is so astounding it is hard to even not hate these people. They don’t pray for particular people to find salvation. They openly pray and wish for certain individuals, one of whom is Bill Gates, to encounter death in the most gruesome ways possible. The Spanish Inquisition (“I didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition!” “Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!” – MPFC) has nothing on these dolts when it comes to thoughts of brutality. Plus, at least the Spanish Inquisition believed, or at least hoped in a gruesomely, circular mind set, they could convince these sinners to confess their sins – and out their neighbors – and come to Jesus even as they were killing them. This group is the antithesis of Jesus’ teachings. I will say this, if anyone needs prayers for salvation, it is them.

Okay, I think I have it out of my system now. Let me get to my point at which this post was originally intended while summing up the rant above. Despite my acknowledgment of the existence of the paranormal and support of certain activities associated with it, I do believe there are many facets of involvement in the paranormal that is spiritually wrong and places individuals in alignment with the deceptions of Lucifer rather than in accordance with God. On the surface, it may even be posited that The Spiteful Ones and I share this view. However, as stated previously, I do not feel that every aspect of paranormal associated activities are wrong, sinful, or otherwise counter to God’s laws. The Spiteful Ones, however, are so ignorant, bitter, and misguided that even though they claim to be valiant Christian Warriors, they do not speak of the same Christ Jesus and Holy Father that I know and have in my heart. And they certainly do not represent Christianity. They are like RINOs – Republicans In Name Only – who claim to be Republican, but their actions say otherwise. As one Christian, I stand up and support TAPS on their own merits and in defense against the vitriolic false accusations and outright lies (so Christ-like, don’t you agree?) from The Spiteful Ones. Go Jesus! Go TAPS! And pray for “The Spiteful Ones!”

Patrick Holmes

P.S. This is Mommy D. I informed my hubby about this group and he was so repulsed and offended that he wrote this. He didn’t want to tell you the groups name for fear of them gaining more traffic or retaliation towards me as this is my blog. BUT I have no problem telling you who these people are. If you want to know use the contact me page and I will GLADLY provide their information. I will not publish a link to them as I don’t want the YUCKINESS on my blog! Although, I’m sure most of you know who he is talking about anyway.

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  • http://twitter.com/DaddyPH Patrick Holmes

    Ralahinn, Thank you for sharing your experiences and your profession. That is a very interesting account of a spirit-attached object. It is also wonderful having a minister basically support my position and offer a unique perspective. You make a strong point at the end about what is real and how we perceive reality. Through the development of humanity and civilization our perceptions of reality have always been limited to what we experienced. In a way, science has both enhanced and, ironically, limited how society views reality. It has enhanced it through exploring some facets of the unknown and providing corroboration or negation of numerous curiosities. On the other hand, society has also become almost reliant on science to say yes or no that when out-of-the-normal events occur if science isn’t there to immediately support it then it must not be real. Before “science” when strange things happened, people actually believed what they saw and others believed them when they told of their experiences. This is why I believe that in ancient times as recorded in the Bible, prophets were front and center, elevated to the highest positions in society; and visitation by angels was prevalent and not something “out of the ordinary.” Today, any prophets (and I do believe they exist in many numbers today) are assumed wackos and angelic encounters are likely rare because we have become so beholden on science to define reality for us we don’t recognize it or mentally shield ourselves from accepting it such that their presence is never acknowledged. Basically, I agree with you that we need to get “open minded” scientists and “skeptical, yet God-fearing” theologians together and pursue the truth in order to educate us. All that is required if that is done is to convince society that those who do so are “the real deal” and not a consortium of fringe lunatics. That last part requires the grace of God to fall on the hearts and minds of the audience before it becomes “reality” and we all know that won’t happen. Why? Because people won’t believe it unless science can prove “Grace.” What a vicious circle of life we have.Patrick
    p.s. In case you haven’t yet, you may enjoy reading Part 1, http://weeklyspectre.com/2010/03/pursuit-of-the-paranormal-one-christians-perspective-part-1/

  • Ralahinn1

    Believe it or not, I am an ordained Minister. I believe that as in humans you can look at the ” fruits” of a being, and tell if it is ” good” or “evil”. Recently, near me a shop had for sale a carved wooden figure of a “Garuda”( for those that don’t know, it is an Indonesian angel/ demon) I knew “something” was in the area even before I saw it. There was a “heaviness” to the air and I got head aches. I could not get closer than a block to it, and I saw it in the shop window. It looked like an angel. I used to have to catch the bus across the street from the store. One night, my daughter happened to be in the area, and together, we both went to the store. With her with me( she has inherited some of what ever my ancestors had…) I was able to walk outside the store which is how I knew it was a Garuda( and we laughed because there are Garudas in one of my favorite game series) anyway, it still was radiating vibes, but they were different from the usual “evil” I felt. It was almost as if it was as curious of us as we were of it. I think spiritual energy reacts like we do, show it kindness, and most will be come kind, mistreat it, or come to something that was mistreated, and you get the evil, scary reaction. These beings are ” tricksters” at their lightest, they play tricks on humans because they were originally taught humans were bad, like many religions teach that angels are good/ demons are bad, but they are related really. Anyway, there are some things that I will not touch, ouija board, and certain spell books among them. But I believe everyone should explore the world around. It wasn’t so long ago that Black people were thought of as animals, and in prized possessions of an Oriental Ruler there was said to be a
    ” white ape” who learned to talk and write( that some believe now was a British sailor washed a shore before trade began between Asia and the west). What these beings are, where they come from, I don’t know, but in our “reality” they should be examined, as other cultures are. I would like to see more people who have “professional”training( religious and science about the paranormal to come and help most of us learn what is going on.

  • Linda

    As a child of God, I am very careful about my thoughts and/or actions regarding paranormal activity, but these groups you mentioned would–in my opinion–fall under the heading of grossly heretical! They represent no god that I know, and are, in all liklihood, under the influence of Satan, in some twisted way!

    I believe that the typical homosexual lifestyle is morally wrong, but it is NOT my job to be judge, jury and executioner! That sin is the same color as all the other sins for which Christ shed his blood, and perhaps not as bad as acrid hatred in the name of God! I’m always so grateful that “vengeance is mind, saith the Lord.” He will judge them.

    As for TAPS, they do a good job! The show creeps me out sometimes, and I won’t watch it alone (I’ve been through waaaaay too much!), but I like it!

  • http://twitter.com/DaddyPH Patrick Holmes

    Thanks for reading and thanks for the comment. TAPS has gone commercial which is their biggest issue. They did much better when they were operating out of a mobile office.

  • http://twitter.com/DaddyPH Patrick Holmes

    Thanks for reading and thanks for the comment. TAPS has gone commercial which is their biggest issue. They did much better when they were operating out of a mobile office.

  • http://twitter.com/DaddyPH Patrick Holmes

    Thanks for reading and thanks for the comment. TAPS has gone commercial which is their biggest issue. They did much better when they were operating out of a mobile office.

  • http://twitter.com/DaddyPH Patrick Holmes

    Thanks for reading and thanks for the comment. TAPS has gone commercial which is their biggest issue. They did much better when they were operating out of a mobile office.

  • http://twitter.com/DaddyPH Patrick Holmes

    Thanks for reading and thanks for the comment. TAPS has gone commercial which is their biggest issue. They did much better when they were operating out of a mobile office.

  • http://theoccultsection.com Jason

    It truly is scary how a group of people can claim to be so religious and love God, and yet spew such misdirected hate. There are many arguments against TAPS, and many things they can be criticized for, but being “Satanic” is not one of them LOL

  • http://theoccultsection.com Jason

    It truly is scary how a group of people can claim to be so religious and love God, and yet spew such misdirected hate. There are many arguments against TAPS, and many things they can be criticized for, but being “Satanic” is not one of them LOL

  • http://theoccultsection.com Jason

    It truly is scary how a group of people can claim to be so religious and love God, and yet spew such misdirected hate. There are many arguments against TAPS, and many things they can be criticized for, but being “Satanic” is not one of them LOL

  • http://twitter.com/hrtcntrdpsychic Brenda Hooser

    Thank you, Patrick for calling me a 'shining light!' Such a beautiful compliment, considering I am merely nothing more than a messenger. Yes; I was born with several gifts, and no not use them towards the highest good of those I read for feels wrong. I was given gifts to help others; and so I do! I struggled for a long time (as do many!) whether or not to charge a fee; and most others like myself do. We charge for our time; NOT the information. That is given freely!

    It matters not at all whether one is Christian, especially as there are so many different beliefs amongst Christians. And as Jessica mentioned; there are those who give Christianity a bad reputation. The same applies to all faiths and beliefs. To me; what is most important is the sincerity and the beauty, love, and acceptance. Anyone can fake the external; the internal is much more difficult.
    Just as you mentioned several from the Bible who would have been considered heretics… consider those of scientific mind, such as Albert Einstein,Isaac Newton, and so many, many more! The earth would have no one left; everyone having been either burnt, drowned, hung… well; you get the idea!

    NOW, who's rambling?? :-) Live and love from the heart, Patrick, be tolerant and compassionate and you won't go wrong, Besides; not only do you have “a little psychic in ya; so do your wife and children!

    Peace, Love, & Light!

  • http://twitter.com/hrtcntrdpsychic Brenda Hooser

    Thank you, Patrick for calling me a 'shining light!' Such a beautiful compliment, considering I am merely nothing more than a messenger. Yes; I was born with several gifts, and no not use them towards the highest good of those I read for feels wrong. I was given gifts to help others; and so I do! I struggled for a long time (as do many!) whether or not to charge a fee; and most others like myself do. We charge for our time; NOT the information. That is given freely!

    It matters not at all whether one is Christian, especially as there are so many different beliefs amongst Christians. And as Jessica mentioned; there are those who give Christianity a bad reputation. The same applies to all faiths and beliefs. To me; what is most important is the sincerity and the beauty, love, and acceptance. Anyone can fake the external; the internal is much more difficult.
    Just as you mentioned several from the Bible who would have been considered heretics… consider those of scientific mind, such as Albert Einstein,Isaac Newton, and so many, many more! The earth would have no one left; everyone having been either burnt, drowned, hung… well; you get the idea!

    NOW, who's rambling?? :-) Live and love from the heart, Patrick, be tolerant and compassionate and you won't go wrong, Besides; not only do you have “a little psychic in ya; so do your wife and children!

    Peace, Love, & Light!

  • http://twitter.com/hrtcntrdpsychic Brenda Hooser

    Thank you, Patrick for calling me a 'shining light!' Such a beautiful compliment, considering I am merely nothing more than a messenger. Yes; I was born with several gifts, and no not use them towards the highest good of those I read for feels wrong. I was given gifts to help others; and so I do! I struggled for a long time (as do many!) whether or not to charge a fee; and most others like myself do. We charge for our time; NOT the information. That is given freely!It matters not at all whether one is Christian, especially as there are so many different beliefs amongst Christians. And as Jessica mentioned; there are those who give Christianity a bad reputation. The same applies to all faiths and beliefs. To me; what is most important is the sincerity and the beauty, love, and acceptance. Anyone can fake the external; the internal is much more difficult. Just as you mentioned several from the Bible who would have been considered heretics… consider those of scientific mind, such as Albert Einstein,Isaac Newton, and so many, many more! The earth would have no one left; everyone having been either burnt, drowned, hung… well; you get the idea! NOW, who's rambling?? :-) Live and love from the heart, Patrick, be tolerant and compassionate and you won't go wrong, Besides; not only do you have “a little psychic in ya; so do your wife and children!Peace, Love, & Light!

  • http://twitter.com/DaddyPH Patrick Holmes

    Brenda,
    Thank you very much for your kind words and relate-able comment. Gifts that are given (such as yours) vs “gifts” that are sought is where I believe is the distinction exhibited in Deuteronomy where God speaks against pagan and “spiritual” behaviors. I have contemplated many times how God could be spiteful against those who simply were recipients of these gifts, essentially from birth? I can only surmise that these are God-given gifts which he expects to be utilized in appropriate ways in support of Him. If the prophets of old (Samuel, Elijah, etc.) were here today, performing their “craft,” would they be classified as psychics? I think so. If you are a servant of God, he expects you to take advantage of all his gifts and opportunities he has provided you. If, on the other hand, someone thinks it would be cool to be able to commune with the dead or other such activity, and seeks out teachers, books, whatever else, to try and “learn” them, then I believe they are placing themselves outside of God's blessings and instead opening themselves up to those who are the antithesis of God, regardless of their good intentions if that is in deed why they are pursuing these abilities. The “Screwtape Letters” really presents this aspect well. But here is the best part. Regardless of what is true, believed to be true, or simply disregarded out of selfish desires, everyone has the opportunity to seek counsel with God. Being a shining light (you) rather than a dark, closed off person (those others) is the best way to act and provide others a view of what being a Christian and mirror of God is. And the the reason why, besides being nice is good, is that everything I have said, and believe, could be totally wrong. Maybe I am mistakenly reflecting Satan rather than God. I really don't know. All I do know with fairly high confidence, is that no matter what I do, or how I do it, I still have the key to the Kingdom of God, just as every living person does.

    Sorry about the ramble on in reply. Thank you again, Brenda, and God Bless you as well!

  • http://twitter.com/DaddyPH Patrick Holmes

    Brenda,
    Thank you very much for your kind words and relate-able comment. Gifts that are given (such as yours) vs “gifts” that are sought is where I believe is the distinction exhibited in Deuteronomy where God speaks against pagan and “spiritual” behaviors. I have contemplated many times how God could be spiteful against those who simply were recipients of these gifts, essentially from birth? I can only surmise that these are God-given gifts which he expects to be utilized in appropriate ways in support of Him. If the prophets of old (Samuel, Elijah, etc.) were here today, performing their “craft,” would they be classified as psychics? I think so. If you are a servant of God, he expects you to take advantage of all his gifts and opportunities he has provided you. If, on the other hand, someone thinks it would be cool to be able to commune with the dead or other such activity, and seeks out teachers, books, whatever else, to try and “learn” them, then I believe they are placing themselves outside of God's blessings and instead opening themselves up to those who are the antithesis of God, regardless of their good intentions if that is in deed why they are pursuing these abilities. The “Screwtape Letters” really presents this aspect well. But here is the best part. Regardless of what is true, believed to be true, or simply disregarded out of selfish desires, everyone has the opportunity to seek counsel with God. Being a shining light (you) rather than a dark, closed off person (those others) is the best way to act and provide others a view of what being a Christian and mirror of God is. And the the reason why, besides being nice is good, is that everything I have said, and believe, could be totally wrong. Maybe I am mistakenly reflecting Satan rather than God. I really don't know. All I do know with fairly high confidence, is that no matter what I do, or how I do it, I still have the key to the Kingdom of God, just as every living person does.

    Sorry about the ramble on in reply. Thank you again, Brenda, and God Bless you as well!

  • http://twitter.com/DaddyPH Patrick Holmes

    Brenda, Thank you very much for your kind words and relate-able comment. Gifts that are given (such as yours) vs “gifts” that are sought is where I believe is the distinction exhibited in Deuteronomy where God speaks against pagan and “spiritual” behaviors. I have contemplated many times how God could be spiteful against those who simply were recipients of these gifts, essentially from birth? I can only surmise that these are God-given gifts which he expects to be utilized in appropriate ways in support of Him. If the prophets of old (Samuel, Elijah, etc.) were here today, performing their “craft,” would they be classified as psychics? I think so. If you are a servant of God, he expects you to take advantage of all his gifts and opportunities he has provided you. If, on the other hand, someone thinks it would be cool to be able to commune with the dead or other such activity, and seeks out teachers, books, whatever else, to try and “learn” them, then I believe they are placing themselves outside of God's blessings and instead opening themselves up to those who are the antithesis of God, regardless of their good intentions if that is in deed why they are pursuing these abilities. The “Screwtape Letters” really presents this aspect well. But here is the best part. Regardless of what is true, believed to be true, or simply disregarded out of selfish desires, everyone has the opportunity to seek counsel with God. Being a shining light (you) rather than a dark, closed off person (those others) is the best way to act and provide others a view of what being a Christian and mirror of God is. And the the reason why, besides being nice is good, is that everything I have said, and believe, could be totally wrong. Maybe I am mistakenly reflecting Satan rather than God. I really don't know. All I do know with fairly high confidence, is that no matter what I do, or how I do it, I still have the key to the Kingdom of God, just as every living person does.Sorry about the ramble on in reply. Thank you again, Brenda, and God Bless you as well!

  • http://www.heartcenteredpsychic.com Brenda

    Patrick,

    I'm your wife's 'psychic' friend, Brenda. Having friends and family of all faiths and beliefs, Christian or otherwise; I support everything you said wholeheartedly. I was already thinking of the Spanish Inquistion, even before I got down to that part! :)

    Although, I don't know of the Spiteful Ones; I do have some family and friends who are very much like them. It saddens me greatly and breaks my heart. It was a constant battle for years and I have been essentially disowned by a few; because of the fact I use the gifts I've received to help others. That said, I love and forgive them.

    I've also learned (and 'know') that now matter what anyone says or does… no matter how hard they try; you can't change someone else's opinions. But if everyone were to treat each other with love, kindness, and compassion? WOW! What a different world it would be. Right?

    It's now time for me to wait for 'The Spiteful Ones', the Spanish Inquisition, the Exorcist, and/or the 'intervention' by friends and/or family members who may be reading my response.

    God bless you to, Patrick!

  • http://www.heartcenteredpsychic.com Brenda

    Patrick,

    I'm your wife's 'psychic' friend, Brenda. Having friends and family of all faiths and beliefs, Christian or otherwise; I support everything you said wholeheartedly. I was already thinking of the Spanish Inquistion, even before I got down to that part! :)

    Although, I don't know of the Spiteful Ones; I do have some family and friends who are very much like them. It saddens me greatly and breaks my heart. It was a constant battle for years and I have been essentially disowned by a few; because of the fact I use the gifts I've received to help others. That said, I love and forgive them.

    I've also learned (and 'know') that now matter what anyone says or does… no matter how hard they try; you can't change someone else's opinions. But if everyone were to treat each other with love, kindness, and compassion? WOW! What a different world it would be. Right?

    It's now time for me to wait for 'The Spiteful Ones', the Spanish Inquisition, the Exorcist, and/or the 'intervention' by friends and/or family members who may be reading my response.

    God bless you to, Patrick!

  • http://www.heartcenteredpsychic.com Brenda

    Patrick,I'm your wife's 'psychic' friend, Brenda. Having friends and family of all faiths and beliefs, Christian or otherwise; I support everything you said wholeheartedly. I was already thinking of the Spanish Inquistion, even before I got down to that part! :) Although, I don't know of the Spiteful Ones; I do have some family and friends who are very much like them. It saddens me greatly and breaks my heart. It was a constant battle for years and I have been essentially disowned by a few; because of the fact I use the gifts I've received to help others. That said, I love and forgive them. I've also learned (and 'know') that now matter what anyone says or does… no matter how hard they try; you can't change someone else's opinions. But if everyone were to treat each other with love, kindness, and compassion? WOW! What a different world it would be. Right?It's now time for me to wait for 'The Spiteful Ones', the Spanish Inquisition, the Exorcist, and/or the 'intervention' by friends and/or family members who may be reading my response.God bless you to, Patrick!

  • http://twitter.com/DaddyPH Patrick Holmes

    Courtney, Thank you again for your patronage of my mind. I will say that you are probably better off not knowing who these people are because if you read any of their slander (which is basically what they amount to) your blood pressure will go through the roof and basically ruin your day. It is that depressing! Let me say this concerning your experience. I do not condone the actions of those bent on “fixing” you, though I can understand their thinking. There are those, who rather than using hate to intrude, they take almost the opposite approach and believe their love of God's children permits them to do as they please in the name of Christ. Think about how many “witches” were burned at the stake because their loved ones turned them over to the church, knowing what would happen, believing it was the Christian thing to do. Better than the hate mongers, but still has the same impact as far as misrepresenting, as I believe, the true practice of Christianity. Thank you again, for your kind words with regard to my post and I hope it lived up to what you were expecting following my first post. God Bless!

    p.s. Yes, it is okay to say stupid. But I think that Imbeciles (IQ 20-49) and Idiots (IQ 0-20) may fight you for thinking of these people so highly! :)

  • http://twitter.com/DaddyPH Patrick Holmes

    Thank you, Jessica for your comment here. You are correct in many respects. There are those who are filled with hate and hide behind the moniker of Christian as some sort of justification for their attitude. Similarly, there are those that view the Bible, and specifically the New Testament, as defining what not to do rather than what they should do. Both of these groups completely miss the teachings on casting the first stone and removing the obstructions of their own eyes first. Personally, I feel they are in the minority of believers, but they are a vocal minority who get coverage and therefore become the “representatives” of the faith. I applaud you for your guiding rule of life; one that should be followed by many people. Thank you again for your wonderful words.
    -Patrick

  • http://twitter.com/DaddyPH Patrick Holmes

    Courtney, Thank you again for your patronage of my mind. I will say that you are probably better off not knowing who these people are because if you read any of their slander (which is basically what they amount to) your blood pressure will go through the roof and basically ruin your day. It is that depressing! Let me say this concerning your experience. I do not condone the actions of those bent on “fixing” you, though I can understand their thinking. There are those, who rather than using hate to intrude, they take almost the opposite approach and believe their love of God's children permits them to do as they please in the name of Christ. Think about how many “witches” were burned at the stake because their loved ones turned them over to the church, knowing what would happen, believing it was the Christian thing to do. Better than the hate mongers, but still has the same impact as far as misrepresenting, as I believe, the true practice of Christianity. Thank you again, for your kind words with regard to my post and I hope it lived up to what you were expecting following my first post. God Bless!

    p.s. Yes, it is okay to say stupid. But I think that Imbeciles (IQ 20-49) and Idiots (IQ 0-20) may fight you for thinking of these people so highly! :)

  • http://twitter.com/DaddyPH Patrick Holmes

    Courtney, Thank you again for your patronage of my mind. I will say that you are probably better off not knowing who these people are because if you read any of their slander (which is basically what they amount to) your blood pressure will go through the roof and basically ruin your day. It is that depressing! Let me say this concerning your experience. I do not condone the actions of those bent on “fixing” you, though I can understand their thinking. There are those, who rather than using hate to intrude, they take almost the opposite approach and believe their love of God's children permits them to do as they please in the name of Christ. Think about how many “witches” were burned at the stake because their loved ones turned them over to the church, knowing what would happen, believing it was the Christian thing to do. Better than the hate mongers, but still has the same impact as far as misrepresenting, as I believe, the true practice of Christianity. Thank you again, for your kind words with regard to my post and I hope it lived up to what you were expecting following my first post. God Bless!p.s. Yes, it is okay to say stupid. But I think that Imbeciles (IQ 20-49) and Idiots (IQ 0-20) may fight you for thinking of these people so highly! :)

  • cmroch

    I'm not too key on TAPS anymore, but for WAY different reasons than The Spiteful Ones. (Who I don't know who you're talking about, but I really loved the name you gave them.) This was a really good post. Too bad people can be so ugly (and is it okay to say stupid?). And like Jessica pointed out, it reminded me of some people we know who felt it necessary to try and through me a ghost intervention to save my soul which was surely going to get possessed if I kept up with my Haunt Jaunting ways….Um, yeah. Worry about your own soul's self, thank you very much. What really grieves me is how they end up hurting the religion they profess to love. All they're doing is drawing negative attention and giving it a bad name. Too bad. Again, really good write up!

  • http://twitter.com/DaddyPH Patrick Holmes

    Thank you, Jessica for your comment here. You are correct in many respects. There are those who are filled with hate and hide behind the moniker of Christian as some sort of justification for their attitude. Similarly, there are those that view the Bible, and specifically the New Testament, as defining what not to do rather than what they should do. Both of these groups completely miss the teachings on casting the first stone and removing the obstructions of their own eyes first. Personally, I feel they are in the minority of believers, but they are a vocal minority who get coverage and therefore become the “representatives” of the faith. I applaud you for your guiding rule of life; one that should be followed by many people. Thank you again for your wonderful words.
    -Patrick

  • http://twitter.com/DaddyPH Patrick Holmes

    Thank you, Jessica for your comment here. You are correct in many respects. There are those who are filled with hate and hide behind the moniker of Christian as some sort of justification for their attitude. Similarly, there are those that view the Bible, and specifically the New Testament, as defining what not to do rather than what they should do. Both of these groups completely miss the teachings on casting the first stone and removing the obstructions of their own eyes first. Personally, I feel they are in the minority of believers, but they are a vocal minority who get coverage and therefore become the “representatives” of the faith. I applaud you for your guiding rule of life; one that should be followed by many people. Thank you again for your wonderful words.-Patrick

  • mommydskitchen

    I know what you mean. It always amazes me at how someone can read something like the Bible and twist it so horribly into something so ugly and hateful.

    Mommy D

  • cmroch

    I'm not too key on TAPS anymore, but for WAY different reasons than The Spiteful Ones. (Who I don't know who you're talking about, but I really loved the name you gave them.) This was a really good post. Too bad people can be so ugly (and is it okay to say stupid?). And like Jessica pointed out, it reminded me of some people we know who felt it necessary to try and through me a ghost intervention to save my soul which was surely going to get possessed if I kept up with my Haunt Jaunting ways….Um, yeah. Worry about your own soul's self, thank you very much. What really grieves me is how they end up hurting the religion they profess to love. All they're doing is drawing negative attention and giving it a bad name. Too bad. Again, really good write up!

  • cmroch

    I'm not too key on TAPS anymore, but for WAY different reasons than The Spiteful Ones. (Who I don't know who you're talking about, but I really loved the name you gave them.) This was a really good post. Too bad people can be so ugly (and is it okay to say stupid?). And like Jessica pointed out, it reminded me of some people we know who felt it necessary to try and through me a ghost intervention to save my soul which was surely going to get possessed if I kept up with my Haunt Jaunting ways….Um, yeah. Worry about your own soul's self, thank you very much. What really grieves me is how they end up hurting the religion they profess to love. All they're doing is drawing negative attention and giving it a bad name. Too bad. Again, really good write up!

  • cmroch

    I'm not too key on TAPS anymore, but for WAY different reasons than The Spiteful Ones. (Who I don't know who you're talking about, but I really loved the name you gave them.) This was a really good post. Too bad people can be so ugly (and is it okay to say stupid?). And like Jessica pointed out, it reminded me of some people we know who felt it necessary to try and through me a ghost intervention to save my soul which was surely going to get possessed if I kept up with my Haunt Jaunting ways….Um, yeah. Worry about your own soul's self, thank you very much. What really grieves me is how they end up hurting the religion they profess to love. All they're doing is drawing negative attention and giving it a bad name. Too bad. Again, really good write up!

  • cmroch

    I'm not too key on TAPS anymore, but for WAY different reasons than The Spiteful Ones. (Who I don't know who you're talking about, but I really loved the name you gave them.) This was a really good post. Too bad people can be so ugly (and is it okay to say stupid?). And like Jessica pointed out, it reminded me of some people we know who felt it necessary to try and through me a ghost intervention to save my soul which was surely going to get possessed if I kept up with my Haunt Jaunting ways….Um, yeah. Worry about your own soul's self, thank you very much. What really grieves me is how they end up hurting the religion they profess to love. All they're doing is drawing negative attention and giving it a bad name. Too bad. Again, really good write up!

  • mommydskitchen

    I know what you mean. It always amazes me at how someone can read something like the Bible and twist it so horribly into something so ugly and hateful.

    Mommy D

  • mommydskitchen

    I know what you mean. It always amazes me at how someone can read something like the Bible and twist it so horribly into something so ugly and hateful.Mommy D

  • http://ghoststoriesandhauntedplaces.blogspot.com Jessica

    I have had many issues with the types of Christians you talk about here. It always seems to me that their faith is guided by hate. They act more like the Pharisees in the bible than Jesus. Christ said above all else we were supposed to care for our neighbor. He said that what you do for the least of his people you do to him. This is the guiding rule of my life. Does what we are doing help others? Ghost hunting brings peace to those who have lost and those who are tormented by spirits, so it does. That is all I need to know.

  • http://ghoststoriesandhauntedplaces.blogspot.com Jessica

    I have had many issues with the types of Christians you talk about here. It always seems to me that their faith is guided by hate. They act more like the Pharisees in the bible than Jesus. Christ said above all else we were supposed to care for our neighbor. He said that what you do for the least of his people you do to him. This is the guiding rule of my life. Does what we are doing help others? Ghost hunting brings peace to those who have lost and those who are tormented by spirits, so it does. That is all I need to know.

  • http://ghoststoriesandhauntedplaces.blogspot.com Jessica

    I have had many issues with the types of Christians you talk about here. It always seems to me that their faith is guided by hate. They act more like the Pharisees in the bible than Jesus. Christ said above all else we were supposed to care for our neighbor. He said that what you do for the least of his people you do to him. This is the guiding rule of my life. Does what we are doing help others? Ghost hunting brings peace to those who have lost and those who are tormented by spirits, so it does. That is all I need to know.

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